General https://georgeyonge.net/translations/general en The Problem of School Dropouts among White Youth in the Republic of South Africa https://georgeyonge.net/translations/general/problem-school-dropouts-among-white-youth-republic-south-africa <span class="field field--name-title field--type-string field--label-hidden">The Problem of School Dropouts among White Youth in the Republic of South Africa</span> <div class="field field--name-field-author field--type-string-long field--label-above"> <div class="field__label">Author</div> <div class="field__item">Pretorius, J. W. M.</div> </div> <span class="field field--name-uid field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden"><span>George Yonge</span></span> <span class="field field--name-created field--type-created field--label-hidden">June 27, 2014 - 3:26pm</span> <div class="field field--name-translation field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden field__items"> <div class="field__item"><a href="/translations/general" hreflang="en">General</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/translations/sociopedagogics" hreflang="en">Sociopedagogics</a></div> </div> <div class="clearfix text-formatted field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field__item"><p>Translation: (2014) Navorsingsbevindinge: Die problematiek van te vroeg skoolverlatende blanke jeug in die R. S. A., Pedagogiekjoernaal (1982) Vol. 3, No. 1, 94-107. Added to website June 27, 2014.</p> </div> <div class="field field--name-upload field--type-file field--label-hidden field__items"> <div class="field__item"> <span class="file file--mime-application-pdf file--application-pdf"> <a href="https://georgeyonge.net/sites/georgeyonge.net/files/Pretorius_dropout.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=116733" title="Pretorius_dropout.pdf">Pretorius_dropout.pdf</a></span> </div> </div> Fri, 27 Jun 2014 21:26:41 +0000 George Yonge 131 at https://georgeyonge.net The Historical Development of Pedagogical Thinking in the Various Part-Disciplines of the Faculty of Education at the Universit https://georgeyonge.net/translations/general/historical-development-pedagogical-thinking-various-part-disciplines-faculty <span class="field field--name-title field--type-string field--label-hidden">The Historical Development of Pedagogical Thinking in the Various Part-Disciplines of the Faculty of Education at the Universit </span> <div class="field field--name-field-author field--type-string-long field--label-above"> <div class="field__label">Author</div> <div class="field__item">Faculty of Education (Joubert, C. J., Mentz, H. C., Roos, S. G., van Niekerk, P. A., Sonnekus, M. C. H., Pretorius, J. W. M., Louw, W. J., van Dyk, C. J.)</div> </div> <span class="field field--name-uid field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden"><span>George Yonge</span></span> <span class="field field--name-created field--type-created field--label-hidden">September 2, 2010 - 1:18pm</span> <div class="field field--name-translation field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden field__items"> <div class="field__item"><a href="/translations/general" hreflang="en">General</a></div> </div> <div class="clearfix text-formatted field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field__item"><p>Translation (2000) of: The development of pedagogical thinking in the various part-disciplines of the Faculty of Education at the University of Pretoria. Pedagogiekjoernaal, 1980, Vol. 1, No. 2, 63-121, 133-232. History and Comparative Pedagogics, pp. 122-132 not translated. CONTENTS FUNDAMENTAL PEDAGOGICS (1930-1980) S. G. Roos 1. Introduction 2. Earlier names of fundamental pedagogics 3. Movement away from an initial naturalistic approach 4. Development of fundamental pedagogic thought appearing in the use of a few concepts 5. Research by students 6. Methodological development 7. The unification of the pedagogic 8. Practical application of fundamental pedagogics 9. Consideration of the significance of a philosophy of life SUMMARY PSYCHOPEDAGOGICS (1930-1980) M. C. H. Sonnekus 1. The earliest years: 1930-1937 2. The period 1937-1950: Establishing the Faculty of Education 3. The period 1950-1959: In search of an autonomous status for psychopedagogics 4. The period 1960-1970: Foundation for a phenomenologically oriented psychopedagogics 5. The period 1970-1980: Establishment of an independent psychopedagogics as a part perspective of an autonomous pedagogics 6. Summary and perspective SUMMARY DIDACTIC PEDAGOGICS (1930-1980) H. C. Mentz First phase Second phase Third phase SUBJECT DIDACTICS (1930-1980) C. J. van Dyk A, General orientation and historical introduction B. Some relevant attributions of meaning to the components and relations of the teaching model C. A number of landmarks informing subject didactic theory D. Subject didactic research TERTIARY DIDACTICS (1930-1980) W. J. LOUW No headings SUMMARY ORTHOPEDAGOGICS (1930-1980) P. A. Van Niekerk 1. Introduction 2. The deviant child as educationally situated 3. Accent on the disabled (handicapped) child 4. Pedagogic diagnostics 5. Therapeutic intervention with a deviant child 6. On the way to an accountable orthopedagogics 7. The orthopedagogic as a pedagogic perspective 8. Orthopedagogic practice SUMMARY VOCATIONAL ORIENTATION (1930-1980) C. J. Joubert 1. Historical perspective 2. Anglo-American vocational counseling (1940-1955) 3. Educational-psychological oriented vocational guidance (1955-1960) 4. Philosophical-pedagogical oriented vocational orientation (1961-1970) 5. Vocational orientation pedagogics (1971-1980) 6. Summary 7. Research in vocational orientation pedagogics (1930-1980) SUMMARY APPENDIX SOCIOPEDAGOGICS (1930-1980) J. W. M. Pretorius No headings SUMMARY</p> </div> <div class="field field--name-upload field--type-file field--label-hidden field__items"> <div class="field__item"> <span class="file file--mime-application-pdf file--application-pdf"> <a href="https://georgeyonge.net/sites/georgeyonge.net/files/Historical_contents.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=24858" title="Historical_contents.pdf">Historical_contents.pdf</a></span> </div> <div class="field__item"> <span class="file file--mime-application-pdf file--application-pdf"> <a href="https://georgeyonge.net/sites/georgeyonge.net/files/Historical_tertiary_did.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=62826" title="Historical_tertiary_did.pdf">Historical_tertiary_did.pdf</a></span> </div> <div class="field__item"> <span class="file file--mime-application-pdf file--application-pdf"> <a href="https://georgeyonge.net/sites/georgeyonge.net/files/Historical_Vocational.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=99510" title="Historical_Vocational.pdf">Historical_Vocational.pdf</a></span> </div> <div class="field__item"> <span class="file file--mime-application-pdf file--application-pdf"> <a href="https://georgeyonge.net/sites/georgeyonge.net/files/Historical_title.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=15430" title="Historical_title.pdf">Historical_title.pdf</a></span> </div> <div class="field__item"> <span class="file file--mime-application-pdf file--application-pdf"> <a href="https://georgeyonge.net/sites/georgeyonge.net/files/Historical_Socio.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=75968" title="Historical_Socio.pdf">Historical_Socio.pdf</a></span> </div> <div class="field__item"> <span class="file file--mime-application-pdf file--application-pdf"> <a href="https://georgeyonge.net/sites/georgeyonge.net/files/Historical_Psy_Ped.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=67795" title="Historical_Psy_Ped.pdf">Historical_Psy_Ped.pdf</a></span> </div> <div class="field__item"> <span class="file file--mime-application-pdf file--application-pdf"> <a href="https://georgeyonge.net/sites/georgeyonge.net/files/Historical_Ortho.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=101303" title="Historical_Ortho.pdf">Historical_Ortho.pdf</a></span> </div> <div class="field__item"> <span class="file file--mime-application-pdf file--application-pdf"> <a href="https://georgeyonge.net/sites/georgeyonge.net/files/Historical_Fund_Ped.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=96013" title="Historical_Fund_Ped.pdf">Historical_Fund_Ped.pdf</a></span> </div> <div class="field__item"> <span class="file file--mime-application-pdf file--application-pdf"> <a href="https://georgeyonge.net/sites/georgeyonge.net/files/%20Historical__Did_Ped.%20pdf.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=58033" title=" Historical__Did_Ped. pdf.pdf"> Historical__Did_Ped. pdf.pdf</a></span> </div> <div class="field__item"> <span class="file file--mime-application-pdf file--application-pdf"> <a href="https://georgeyonge.net/sites/georgeyonge.net/files/Historical_Subj_Did.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=85305" title="Historical_Subj_Did.pdf">Historical_Subj_Did.pdf</a></span> </div> </div> Thu, 02 Sep 2010 19:18:06 +0000 George Yonge 115 at https://georgeyonge.net Femininity Resides in a Woman's Different Way of Being-in-the-World https://georgeyonge.net/translations/fundamental-pedagogics/femininity-resides-womans-different-way-being-world <span class="field field--name-title field--type-string field--label-hidden">Femininity Resides in a Woman&#039;s Different Way of Being-in-the-World</span> <div class="field field--name-field-author field--type-string-long field--label-above"> <div class="field__label">Author</div> <div class="field__item">Fourie, M. M.</div> </div> <span class="field field--name-uid field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden"><span>George Yonge</span></span> <span class="field field--name-created field--type-created field--label-hidden">June 6, 2010 - 3:21pm</span> <div class="field field--name-translation field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden field__items"> <div class="field__item"><a href="/translations/fundamental-pedagogics" hreflang="en">Fundamental Pedagogics</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/translations/general" hreflang="en">General</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/translations/psychopedagogics" hreflang="en">Psychopedagogics</a></div> </div> <div class="clearfix text-formatted field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field__item"><p>Translation (2010): M. M. Fourie, Vroulikheid setel in die vrou se anderse wyse van in-die-wereld-wees. South African Journal of Pedagogy, 1972, Vol. 8, No. 2, pp. 69-81.</p> </div> <div class="field field--name-upload field--type-file field--label-hidden field__items"> <div class="field__item"> <span class="file file--mime-application-pdf file--application-pdf"> <a href="https://georgeyonge.net/sites/georgeyonge.net/files/Fourie_femininity.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=96010" title="Fourie_femininity.pdf">Fourie_femininity.pdf</a></span> </div> </div> Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:21:31 +0000 George Yonge 110 at https://georgeyonge.net The Development of Pedagogical Thinking in the Various Part-Disciplines of the Faculty of Education from 1930 to 1980: Subject https://georgeyonge.net/translations/general-subject-didactics/development-pedagogical-thinking-various-part-disciplines <span class="field field--name-title field--type-string field--label-hidden">The Development of Pedagogical Thinking in the Various Part-Disciplines of the Faculty of Education from 1930 to 1980: Subject</span> <div class="field field--name-field-author field--type-string-long field--label-above"> <div class="field__label">Author</div> <div class="field__item">Van Dyk, C. J.</div> </div> <span class="field field--name-uid field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden"><span>George Yonge</span></span> <span class="field field--name-created field--type-created field--label-hidden">January 2, 2008 - 11:44am</span> <div class="field field--name-translation field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden field__items"> <div class="field__item"><a href="/translations/general" hreflang="en">General</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/translations/subject-didactics" hreflang="en">Subject Didactics</a></div> </div> <div class="clearfix text-formatted field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field__item"><p>Translation (2000) of Die ontplooiing van die pedagogiekdenke in die verskillende deeldissipline van die Faculteit Opvoedkunde, oor die afgelope vyftig jaar. Pedagogiekjoernaal (1980), Vol. 1, No. 2, 215-232. Updated 1 June, 2018.</p> </div> <div class="field field--name-upload field--type-file field--label-hidden field__items"> <div class="field__item"> <span class="file file--mime-application-pdf file--application-pdf"> <a href="https://georgeyonge.net/sites/georgeyonge.net/files/2018-06/Van_Dyk_HIST_SUBJECT_DIDACTICS.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=117459">Van_Dyk_HIST_SUBJECT_DIDACTICS.pdf</a></span> </div> </div> Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:44:11 +0000 George Yonge 87 at https://georgeyonge.net The Development of Pedagogical Thinking in the Various Part-Disciplines of the Faculty of Education from 1930 to 1980: Orthopedagogics https://georgeyonge.net/translations/general-orthopedagogics/development-pedagogical-thinking-various-part-disciplines <span class="field field--name-title field--type-string field--label-hidden">The Development of Pedagogical Thinking in the Various Part-Disciplines of the Faculty of Education from 1930 to 1980: Orthopedagogics</span> <div class="field field--name-field-author field--type-string-long field--label-above"> <div class="field__label">Author</div> <div class="field__item">Van Niekerk, P. A.</div> </div> <span class="field field--name-uid field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden"><span>George Yonge</span></span> <span class="field field--name-created field--type-created field--label-hidden">January 2, 2008 - 11:34am</span> <div class="field field--name-translation field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden field__items"> <div class="field__item"><a href="/translations/general" hreflang="en">General</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/translations/orthopedagogics" hreflang="en">Orthopedagogics</a></div> </div> <div class="clearfix text-formatted field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field__item"><p>Translation (2000) of Die ontplooiing van die pedagogiekdenke in die verskillende deeldissiplines van die Faculteit Opvoedkunde, oor die afgelope vyftig jaar. Pedagogiekjoernaal, (1980), Vol. 1, No. 2, 133-157.</p> </div> <div class="field field--name-upload field--type-file field--label-hidden field__items"> <div class="field__item"> <span class="file file--mime-application-pdf file--application-pdf"> <a href="https://georgeyonge.net/sites/georgeyonge.net/files/2019-03/Van_Niekerk_Historical%2C%20Ortho.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=158660">Van_Niekerk_Historical, Ortho.pdf</a></span> </div> </div> Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:34:10 +0000 George Yonge 86 at https://georgeyonge.net The Development of Pedagogical Thinking in the Various Part-Disciplines of the Faculty of Education from 1930 to 1980: Voctional https://georgeyonge.net/translations/general/development-pedagogical-thinking-various-part-disciplines-faculty-education-1-1 <span class="field field--name-title field--type-string field--label-hidden">The Development of Pedagogical Thinking in the Various Part-Disciplines of the Faculty of Education from 1930 to 1980: Voctional</span> <div class="field field--name-field-author field--type-string-long field--label-above"> <div class="field__label">Author</div> <div class="field__item">Joubert, C. J.</div> </div> <span class="field field--name-uid field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden"><span>George Yonge</span></span> <span class="field field--name-created field--type-created field--label-hidden">January 2, 2008 - 8:19am</span> <div class="field field--name-translation field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden field__items"> <div class="field__item"><a href="/translations/vocational-orientation-pedagogics" hreflang="en">Vocational Orientation Pedagogics</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/translations/general" hreflang="en">General</a></div> </div> <div class="clearfix text-formatted field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field__item"><p>Translation (2000) of Die ontplooiing van die pedagogiekdenke in die verskillende deeldissiplines van die Fakulteit Opvoedkunde. Pedagogiekjoernaal (1980), Vol. 1, No. 2, 67-85.</p> </div> <div class="field field--name-upload field--type-file field--label-hidden field__items"> <div class="field__item"> <span class="file file--mime-application-pdf file--application-pdf"> <a href="https://georgeyonge.net/sites/georgeyonge.net/files/Joubert_voc_hist.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=111408" title="Joubert_voc_hist.pdf">Joubert_voc_hist.pdf</a></span> </div> </div> Wed, 02 Jan 2008 15:19:32 +0000 George Yonge 85 at https://georgeyonge.net The Development of Pedagogical Thinking in the Various Part-Disciplines of the Faculty of Education from 1930 to 1980: Sociopeda https://georgeyonge.net/translations/general/development-pedagogical-thinking-various-part-disciplines-faculty-education-1-0 <span class="field field--name-title field--type-string field--label-hidden">The Development of Pedagogical Thinking in the Various Part-Disciplines of the Faculty of Education from 1930 to 1980: Sociopeda</span> <div class="field field--name-field-author field--type-string-long field--label-above"> <div class="field__label">Author</div> <div class="field__item">Pretorius, J. W. M.</div> </div> <span class="field field--name-uid field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden"><span>George Yonge</span></span> <span class="field field--name-created field--type-created field--label-hidden">December 10, 2007 - 9:30pm</span> <div class="field field--name-translation field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden field__items"> <div class="field__item"><a href="/translations/general" hreflang="en">General</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/translations/sociopedagogics" hreflang="en">Sociopedagogics</a></div> </div> <div class="clearfix text-formatted field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field__item"><p>Translation (2000) of Sosiopedagogiek. Pedagogiekjoernaal (1980), Vol. 1, No. 2, 177-198.</p> </div> <div class="field field--name-upload field--type-file field--label-hidden field__items"> <div class="field__item"> <span class="file file--mime-application-pdf file--application-pdf"> <a href="https://georgeyonge.net/sites/georgeyonge.net/files/History_socioped_0.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=91084" title="History_socioped.pdf">History_socioped.pdf</a></span> </div> </div> Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:30:03 +0000 George Yonge 83 at https://georgeyonge.net Symposium on The Unity of Pedagogics https://georgeyonge.net/translations/didactic-pedagogics-fundamental-pedagogics-general/symposium-unity-pedagogics <span class="field field--name-title field--type-string field--label-hidden">Symposium on The Unity of Pedagogics</span> <div class="field field--name-field-author field--type-string-long field--label-above"> <div class="field__label">Author</div> <div class="field__item">Landman W. A., (Chairman), van der Stoep, F., van Zyl, P., van Niekerk, P. A.</div> </div> <span class="field field--name-uid field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden"><span>George Yonge</span></span> <span class="field field--name-created field--type-created field--label-hidden">November 25, 2007 - 11:56pm</span> <div class="field field--name-translation field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden field__items"> <div class="field__item"><a href="/translations/didactic-pedagogics" hreflang="en">Didactic Pedagogics</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/translations/fundamental-pedagogics" hreflang="en">Fundamental Pedagogics</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/translations/general" hreflang="en">General</a></div> </div> <div class="clearfix text-formatted field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field__item"><p>Translation (2001) of: Simposium oor die eenheid van die pedagogiek. South African Journal of Pedagogy (1979) Vol. 13, No. 1, 159-196.  Edited February 11, 2019.</p> </div> <div class="field field--name-upload field--type-file field--label-hidden field__items"> <div class="field__item"> <span class="file file--mime-application-pdf file--application-pdf"> <a href="https://georgeyonge.net/sites/georgeyonge.net/files/2019-02/vanderStoep_unity.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=56470">vanderStoep_unity.pdf</a></span> </div> <div class="field__item"> <span class="file file--mime-application-pdf file--application-pdf"> <a href="https://georgeyonge.net/sites/georgeyonge.net/files/2019-02/vanZyl_unity.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=120527">vanZyl_unity.pdf</a></span> </div> <div class="field__item"> <span class="file file--mime-application-pdf file--application-pdf"> <a href="https://georgeyonge.net/sites/georgeyonge.net/files/2019-02/VanNie_unity.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=65617">VanNie_unity.pdf</a></span> </div> <div class="field__item"> <span class="file file--mime-application-pdf file--application-pdf"> <a href="https://georgeyonge.net/sites/georgeyonge.net/files/2019-02/unity_discussion.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=50122">unity_discussion.pdf</a></span> </div> <div class="field__item"> <span class="file file--mime-application-pdf file--application-pdf"> <a href="https://georgeyonge.net/sites/georgeyonge.net/files/2019-02/title_unity_0.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=22180">title_unity.pdf</a></span> </div> </div> Mon, 26 Nov 2007 06:56:46 +0000 George Yonge 62 at https://georgeyonge.net The Development of Pedagogical Thinking in the Various Part-Disciplines of the Faculty of Education from 1930 to 1980: Psychopedagogics https://georgeyonge.net/translations/general-psychopedagogics/development-pedagogical-thinking-various-part-disciplines <span class="field field--name-title field--type-string field--label-hidden">The Development of Pedagogical Thinking in the Various Part-Disciplines of the Faculty of Education from 1930 to 1980: Psychopedagogics</span> <div class="field field--name-field-author field--type-string-long field--label-above"> <div class="field__label">Author</div> <div class="field__item">Sonnekus, M. C. H.</div> </div> <span class="field field--name-uid field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden"><span>George Yonge</span></span> <span class="field field--name-created field--type-created field--label-hidden">November 13, 2007 - 4:36pm</span> <div class="field field--name-translation field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden field__items"> <div class="field__item"><a href="/translations/general" hreflang="en">General</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/translations/psychopedagogics" hreflang="en">Psychopedagogics</a></div> </div> <div class="clearfix text-formatted field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field__item"><p>Translation (1998) of: Die ontplooiing van die pedagogiekdenke in die verskillende deeldissiplines van die Fakulteit Opvoeding oor die afgelope vyftig jaar: Psigopedagogiek. Pedagogiekjoernaal, 1 (2), 158-176.</p> </div> <div class="field field--name-upload field--type-file field--label-hidden field__items"> <div class="field__item"> <span class="file file--mime-application-pdf file--application-pdf"> <a href="https://georgeyonge.net/sites/georgeyonge.net/files/Sonnekus_history_psychoped.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=74816" title="Sonnekus_history_psychoped.pdf">Sonnekus_history_psychoped.pdf</a></span> </div> </div> Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:36:10 +0000 George Yonge 20 at https://georgeyonge.net The Development of Pedagogical Thinking in the Various Part-Disciplines of the Faculty of Education from 1930 to 1980: Fundament https://georgeyonge.net/translations/fundamental-pedagogics/development-pedagogical-thinking-various-part-disciplines-facult <span class="field field--name-title field--type-string field--label-hidden">The Development of Pedagogical Thinking in the Various Part-Disciplines of the Faculty of Education from 1930 to 1980: Fundament</span> <div class="field field--name-field-author field--type-string-long field--label-above"> <div class="field__label">Author</div> <div class="field__item">Roos, S. G.</div> </div> <span class="field field--name-uid field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden"><span>George Yonge</span></span> <span class="field field--name-created field--type-created field--label-hidden">October 5, 2007 - 9:15pm</span> <div class="field field--name-translation field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden field__items"> <div class="field__item"><a href="/translations/fundamental-pedagogics" hreflang="en">Fundamental Pedagogics</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/translations/general" hreflang="en">General</a></div> </div> <div class="clearfix text-formatted field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field__item"><p>Translation (2000) of: Die ontplooiing van die pedagogiekdenke in die verskillende deeldissiplines van die Fakulteit Opvoedkunde oor die afgelope fyftig jaar: Fundamentele pedagogiek. Pedagogiekjoernaal, 1 (2), 101-121.</p> </div> <div class="field field--name-upload field--type-file field--label-hidden field__items"> <div class="field__item"> <span class="file file--mime-application-pdf file--application-pdf"> <a href="https://georgeyonge.net/sites/georgeyonge.net/files/FundPedHistory_Roos_a.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=96633" title="FundPedHistory_Roos_a.pdf">FundPedHistory_Roos_a.pdf</a></span> </div> </div> Sat, 06 Oct 2007 03:15:48 +0000 George Yonge 9 at https://georgeyonge.net